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	<title>Comments on: Keywords in urls</title>
	<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php</link>
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		<title>By: John Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>John Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-111</guid>
		<description>Coincidentally, I blogged about this just a couple days before you:

http://www.internet-marketing-blog.com/2006/03/10/parsing-keywords-in-urls/

Great minds think alike, eh? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coincidentally, I blogged about this just a couple days before you:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.internet-marketing-blog.com/2006/03/10/parsing-keywords-in-urls/" rel="nofollow">http://www.internet-marketing-blog.com/2006/03/10/parsing-keywords-in-urls/</a></p>
<p>Great minds think alike, eh? <img src='http://www.seo-blog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: duz</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>duz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-103</guid>
		<description>I think it probably is sandboxed or very close to it and you will need some “trusted” links. You are right not to buy links at this stage. Just work away at getting those links and be patient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it probably is sandboxed or very close to it and you will need some “trusted” links. You are right not to buy links at this stage. Just work away at getting those links and be patient.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirtan</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirtan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-102</guid>
		<description>Just today i updated my site with W3C xHTML validation and changed content. Google locate my site for following phrases &#124; "still it suits to your budget" &#124; and &#124;"product familiar to your"&#124;. So i guess it is not sandboxed problem. is it so? Or i have to get some more quality inlinks? so far i didn't spend any money in buying links. Because it is not upto 1000 Ranking and how can i guess, it will come up if i buy links? confusing. Please Help! Thank you in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just today i updated my site with W3C xHTML validation and changed content. Google locate my site for following phrases | &#8220;still it suits to your budget&#8221; | and |&#8221;product familiar to your&#8221;|. So i guess it is not sandboxed problem. is it so? Or i have to get some more quality inlinks? so far i didn&#8217;t spend any money in buying links. Because it is not upto 1000 Ranking and how can i guess, it will come up if i buy links? confusing. Please Help! Thank you in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: duz</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>duz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-101</guid>
		<description>It is an over hyphenated domain name but that is not the reason I suspect. Normally two hyphens in a domain is the most you should have and something like genex-web-design.com would have been better. 

It looks as if your site maybe sandboxed. For example doing an exact search in Google for a short text phrase taken from your home page &#124;"located in new york and india"&#124; does not find your site. The way out is to obtain some links from "trusted" directories like &lt;a href="http://dmoz.org/"&gt;dmoz&lt;/a&gt; and trusted sites in your sector like &lt;a href="http://webdesign.about.com/"&gt;webdesign.about.com&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an over hyphenated domain name but that is not the reason I suspect. Normally two hyphens in a domain is the most you should have and something like genex-web-design.com would have been better. </p>
<p>It looks as if your site maybe sandboxed. For example doing an exact search in Google for a short text phrase taken from your home page |&#8221;located in new york and india&#8221;| does not find your site. The way out is to obtain some links from &#8220;trusted&#8221; directories like <a href="http://dmoz.org/">dmoz</a> and trusted sites in your sector like <a href="http://webdesign.about.com/">webdesign.about.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirtan</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirtan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-100</guid>
		<description>My site http://www.gx-affordable-web-design-and-hosting-services.com has #1 rank in MSN and Lycos now for this keyword phrase "Affordable Web Design And Hosting Services". But there is no rank in yahoo and google upto 1000 position. Is it because of LONG URL. Or any other reasons exists for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My site <a href="http://www.gx-affordable-web-design-and-hosting-services.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gx-affordable-web-design-and-hosting-services.com</a> has #1 rank in MSN and Lycos now for this keyword phrase &#8220;Affordable Web Design And Hosting Services&#8221;. But there is no rank in yahoo and google upto 1000 position. Is it because of LONG URL. Or any other reasons exists for this?</p>
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		<title>By: duz</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>duz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-77</guid>
		<description>That is a very hypothetical question but &lt;em&gt;if&lt;/em&gt; everything was the same then sports-shoes.com would probably rank higher. Of course everything is &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; the same in the real world and brand names are extremely important to businesses. The top site for online books is amazon.com not books-online.com, the top auction site is eBay.com not online-auctions.com and so on with Microsoft, Coca-Cola, Disney, Cisco and thousands of others. If you are building a business then you need a brand name. If branding is not an issue then go for the hyphens.

I think in practise the same effort has to be put into emarketing your new website whatever domain name you choose.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a very hypothetical question but <em>if</em> everything was the same then sports-shoes.com would probably rank higher. Of course everything is <em>never</em> the same in the real world and brand names are extremely important to businesses. The top site for online books is amazon.com not books-online.com, the top auction site is eBay.com not online-auctions.com and so on with Microsoft, Coca-Cola, Disney, Cisco and thousands of others. If you are building a business then you need a brand name. If branding is not an issue then go for the hyphens.</p>
<p>I think in practise the same effort has to be put into emarketing your new website whatever domain name you choose.</p>
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		<title>By: kirtan</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>kirtan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-76</guid>
		<description>duz,

I have the same question as vingold has, but slightly different one. 
Say one site is with its brand name (e.g. www.nike.com) and one with keyword (e.g. www.sports-shoes.com) And everything is same (meta tags, title, link pop, etc) which one is get top rank for the keyword "sports shoes". ?

i guess www.sports-shoes.com will be top rank than branded one. How much effort needed to out rank that unbranded site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duz,</p>
<p>I have the same question as vingold has, but slightly different one.<br />
Say one site is with its brand name (e.g. <a href="http://www.nike.com" rel="nofollow">www.nike.com</a>) and one with keyword (e.g. <a href="http://www.sports-shoes.com" rel="nofollow">www.sports-shoes.com</a>) And everything is same (meta tags, title, link pop, etc) which one is get top rank for the keyword &#8220;sports shoes&#8221;. ?</p>
<p>i guess <a href="http://www.sports-shoes.com" rel="nofollow">www.sports-shoes.com</a> will be top rank than branded one. How much effort needed to out rank that unbranded site?</p>
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		<title>By: duz</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>duz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-58</guid>
		<description>vingold that is a good question. 

Let's get rid of the branding issue first. 

Ideally companies would like to build a brand and some of the most successful brands are made-up words, for example Exxon, Kodak, Epson, Comcast, Cisco etc., etc. If you want to build a brand that is the way to go and gobbledegook will do nicely.

Although branding is very important, sometimes you may be more concerned about position in the SERPs.  For example let's say you are building an affiliate site for sports shoes. You have decided that your strategy is to have thousands of content pages of reviews of various sports shoes with your affiliate links.  Branding is not an issue, so what domain should you choose sports-shoes-review.com or sportsshoesreview.com? 

Answer sports-shoes-review.com and here's why. When your site gets unsolicited links they may be in two basic forms one where there is some keyword anchor text and one where the linker just anchors the url:

For advice on choosing the right sports shoes go to &#60;a href="http://www.sports-shoes-review.com"&#62;Sports Shoes Review&#60;/a&#62;.

For advice on choosing the right sports shoes go to &#60;a href="http://www.sports-shoes-review.com"&#62;http://www.sports-shoes-review.com&#60;/a&#62;.

In the second case because you have used a keyword1-keyword2-keyword3 domain the anchor text will still contain your keywords. If you had chosen sportsshoesreview.com the search engines would not see the keywords but would see only one made-up word sportsshoesreview.

So the bottom line is, more interested in SERPs than branding then go for the hyphens. Keep it to one or two hyphens only and make sure it reads well as the name of your site. 

Will it make a difference? Yes but a small difference. Is it worth doing? In most cases yes and I would take http:&#47;&#47www.sports-shoes-review.com/nike-shox.html over http:&#47;&#47www.sportsshoesreview.com/pdp.jsp?productId=99057&#38;categoryId=304203&#38;productGroup=90793&#38;catalogId=1 every time.

Sports Shoes Review sounds good as a site name doesn't it and sports-shoes-review.com is still available as I write :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vingold that is a good question. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get rid of the branding issue first. </p>
<p>Ideally companies would like to build a brand and some of the most successful brands are made-up words, for example Exxon, Kodak, Epson, Comcast, Cisco etc., etc. If you want to build a brand that is the way to go and gobbledegook will do nicely.</p>
<p>Although branding is very important, sometimes you may be more concerned about position in the SERPs.  For example let&#8217;s say you are building an affiliate site for sports shoes. You have decided that your strategy is to have thousands of content pages of reviews of various sports shoes with your affiliate links.  Branding is not an issue, so what domain should you choose sports-shoes-review.com or sportsshoesreview.com? </p>
<p>Answer sports-shoes-review.com and here&#8217;s why. When your site gets unsolicited links they may be in two basic forms one where there is some keyword anchor text and one where the linker just anchors the url:</p>
<p>For advice on choosing the right sports shoes go to &lt;a href=&#8221;http://www.sports-shoes-review.com&#8221;&gt;Sports Shoes Review&lt;/a&gt;.</p>
<p>For advice on choosing the right sports shoes go to &lt;a href=&#8221;http://www.sports-shoes-review.com&#8221;&gt;http://www.sports-shoes-review.com&lt;/a&gt;.</p>
<p>In the second case because you have used a keyword1-keyword2-keyword3 domain the anchor text will still contain your keywords. If you had chosen sportsshoesreview.com the search engines would not see the keywords but would see only one made-up word sportsshoesreview.</p>
<p>So the bottom line is, more interested in SERPs than branding then go for the hyphens. Keep it to one or two hyphens only and make sure it reads well as the name of your site. </p>
<p>Will it make a difference? Yes but a small difference. Is it worth doing? In most cases yes and I would take http:&#47;&#47www.sports-shoes-review.com/nike-shox.html over http:&#47;&#47www.sportsshoesreview.com/pdp.jsp?productId=99057&amp;categoryId=304203&amp;productGroup=90793&amp;catalogId=1 every time.</p>
<p>Sports Shoes Review sounds good as a site name doesn&#8217;t it and sports-shoes-review.com is still available as I write <img src='http://www.seo-blog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: vingold</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>vingold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-57</guid>
		<description>I'm a few months behind in my reading ... but here's my question:

I understand that in regards to file names - hyphenation is the way to go.

Can you speculate on what the results might be in regards to domain name?

For instance - all other things being equal (exact in content, inbound and outbound links, etc.) - if I was to do a search on "seo blog", which would rank higher?

seo-blog.com or seoblog.com?  I think we can assume you'd be less than efficient to do seo_blog.com

I believe I read elsewhere in SEO literature (maybe even written by you) that in the end domain name plays a very small part in SERP.  That all other things (meta tags, links, keyword file names, etc.) carry much more weight than the domain name.

But I was just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a few months behind in my reading &#8230; but here&#8217;s my question:</p>
<p>I understand that in regards to file names - hyphenation is the way to go.</p>
<p>Can you speculate on what the results might be in regards to domain name?</p>
<p>For instance - all other things being equal (exact in content, inbound and outbound links, etc.) - if I was to do a search on &#8220;seo blog&#8221;, which would rank higher?</p>
<p>seo-blog.com or seoblog.com?  I think we can assume you&#8217;d be less than efficient to do seo_blog.com</p>
<p>I believe I read elsewhere in SEO literature (maybe even written by you) that in the end domain name plays a very small part in SERP.  That all other things (meta tags, links, keyword file names, etc.) carry much more weight than the domain name.</p>
<p>But I was just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Junanagoh</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Junanagoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.seo-blog.com/keywords-in-urls.php#comment-39</guid>
		<description>Great test! I think this has inspired me to try a few tests of my own that I have been waiting to try for a couple of months now.

Ill be checking back to see the outcome of the test with MSN. Thanks for sharing your information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great test! I think this has inspired me to try a few tests of my own that I have been waiting to try for a couple of months now.</p>
<p>Ill be checking back to see the outcome of the test with MSN. Thanks for sharing your information.</p>
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